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yesterday to win the nfc east. maybe rg3 can negotiate the fiscal cliff next. we'll be right back with more on "morning joe." humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? ♪ >>> all right, there were some sports events that happened over the weekend, and -- >> one or two. >> -- i'm going to toss this to michael steele, who loves the redskins, and they made the playoffs, michael. >> absolutely. hail to the redskins. rg3, alfred morris, boy, they knocked it out of the park. and look, the washington guys like biden and mcconnell can learn something from this, you know? when the quarterback is down, maybe you get a little tailback like alfred morris to come in and help you out, and that's what he did for the skins. awesome game last night. >> all right. ed rendell, i guess we've got rookie quarterbacks
the fiscal cliff, the next big battle has already arrived. treasury secretary tim geithner says government borrowing hits the debt ceiling today. with me now, former new hampshire republican senator judd gregg. he's currently co-chairman of the campaign to fix the debt. senator, let's -- i want to start 50,000 feet, and we'll move down closer to ground level, but as a former member of the senate, we've now had two grand bargains, one around the debt ceiling, one around the fiscal cliff, seemingly, well, on the debt ceiling definitely, and on this one, seemingly fall apart. now that you're on the outside, are people right to be skeptical that congress can do anything? i hesitate to say big. even medium in terms of addressing our debt and spending problems? >> oh, they're absolutely correct in being skeptical, but congress can act. it has acted in the past. regrettably, it usually acts in crisis. for example, during the financial meltdown, when the entire banking system of our nation would have collapsed, congress did act. and we've acted in other situations such as right after 9/11. so, may
the looming fiscal cliff within the next six days. it's a matter that's been made all the more difficult with news today that speaker boehner's house will not be back to work on thursday. we've got kristen welker joining us from beautiful honolulu. that's a lovely spot there. >> it is. hey, karen. >> hey. wel get to the fiscal cliff in just a moment. we understand that you've just gotten word that the president is actually getting updates on the condition of former president rw bush. what can you tell us about that sfl. >> that's right. according to a senior official, president obama has been kept up to date on the condition of former president bush. he is recovering. he spent christmas in the hospital. doctors kept him there after concern that his fever was increasing. now, the senior administration officials won't confirm who's updating president obama. karen, it's not unusual for a sitting president to be kept in the loop when this type of situation arouss. when a former president is ill. so we are being told he has been kept in the loop. and of course the entire white house watching
talked about the looming fiscal cliff. >> i'm not sure what's next. i can tell you, the senate's here, we're in session, we had votes tonight. the president is here. i'm the eternal optimist. we can pass the farm bill that we passed last june. by cutting subsidies for wealthy farmers. so, there's a lot of things that we can do but it's going to take the speaker deciding that he wants to work across the aisle to get it done. >> you can catch the rachel maddow show right here on msbnc on 9:00. >>> retired four-star general norman schwarzkopf died thursday at his home in tampa, florida. he was 78. the hard-charging general, was most famous for leading coalition forces to victory during the first persian gulf war in 1991. under his command it took troops just six weeks to drive saddam hussein's army out of kuwait. gener schwarzkopf is survived by his wife brenda and their three children. >>> former president george h.w. bush are main street in intensive care this morning. while mr. bush's condition is serious, in an e-mail, a spokesperson said for the family said that the president hasn't los
to avoid the fiscal cliff can happen in the next couple of hours. let me bring chuck todd in. and dan, i loved when you were talking and ed rendell went like this, and you pushed him hand down and continued talking. that was effective. >> maybe they should do that. >> chuck todd. chuck. >> look, you know, the irony to all this is i think when you look at the deal that's about to be struck, if it happens between mcconnell and biden, it's pretty clear that the white house and mcconnell would have gotten this deal done if they were the two negotiating partners. mitch mcconnell. look where they're coming around on. when boehner decided to halt the talks and go toward his plan "b," they were upset because they thought the white house should be coming up another $100 billion, $150 billion on spending cuts. what i never understood is why stop the talks right then? if you believed you were close, the white house at $400,000, boehner at $1 million, they stopped trading proposals. boehner decided not to do that. now, i think there's clearly some sort of personal -- they don't know how to talk to e
a small deal on taxes before the fiscal cliff deadlines up, their next fight over the dead ceiling will be queued up and ready to go. whether or not we go over the fiscal cliff tomorrow night, a political stand-off over the debt ceiling is imminent. joining us sort through all of this current and future fiscal crises is ezra klein. at "the washington post" as well as columnist for bloomberg view. thanks for joining us. you addressed the issue of what happens next, i saw you on rachel's show friday. your theory are it's key to how the fiscal cliff plays out. explain. >> there's a significant difference of opinion in the political ramification of what happens if we go over and it comes down debt ceiling. if we go over the fiscal cliff they have all of the leverage because we'll go into the debt ceiling and it will be just like 2011 again. they'll say we're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless you cut entitlements, barack obama will say no and terrified of consequences of national default he'll say yes. so they'll get all of the entitlement cuts with no tax increases on the tabl
to happen when it comes to the fiscal cliff. number one, we're going to see an agreement in the next 48 hours, in which case middle class taxes will not go up. if that doesn't happen, then democrats in the senate will put a bill on the floor of the senate, and republicans will have to decide if they are going to block it, which will mean that middle class taxes do go up. i don't think they will want to do that politically, but they may end up doing it. >> that, of course, from our interview just moments ago with the president. i sat down with him yesterday at the white house. putting the onus squarely on congressional leaders to either do a comprehensive package now or a short-term solution to prevent middle class taxes from going up. joining me now, nbc news political director and chief white house correspondent chuck todd. nbc news special correspondent tom brokaw. the author of -- the "new york times" best selling boom book, "thomas jefferson: the art of power," jon meacham. and presidential historian and author of the lincoln biography "team of rivals" doris kearns goodwin. david br
. i think that would pass. there are ways to avoid the fiscal cliff in the next 36 hours. >> what is that mood like? i know you have been talking to them day in and day out. i was asking you on the commercial break what you are doing on capitol hill, what you are doing now. a lot of hurry up and wait. >> there's a lot of frustration. everybody understands this is a very serious issue. 36 hours from now, the fiscal cliff takes effect if there's inaction. there's some optimism. there's reason to be hopeful. i think the senate is going to come up with a plan we'll be able to vote on in the house. if not, the president put forward a plan that is ready to go now. there's no reason we can't get that done. >> the president has a back-up plan, he wants you to put something forward to make sure the tax cuts stay in place for the middle class. it's something you can support. what is your threshold? is it $400,000 or $500,000? if reid and mcconnell come up with a deal, what would you support? >> i would support $250,000. it's probably going to be higher than $250,000 somewhere between 400,00
the fiscal cliff? the political brief sing next. first, the amr moment of 2012 that left us all speechless. i'm not kidding. this literally left me speech weathers it happened. you will remember it. >> contraceptive thing, my gosh, it is such inexpensive. back in my days, they used bayer aspirin, they put it between their knees and it was not that costly? ? >> excuse me, i'm just trying to catch my breath from that. >>> this afternoon's meeting feels like optics, to make it look like we are doing something. let me say one more time, this is a total dereliction of duty at every level. i have been surprised that -- the president has not laid out a very specific plan to deal with this. but candidly, congress could have done the same. and i think that the american people should be disgusted. >> this's just four days until washington drives off the so-called fiscal cliff. something both democrats and republicans have called a worst case scenario. is temporarily going tv cliff is a best-case scenario for all parties involved? joining me now is maggie haberman. thank you for bog the show. >> thanks
it comes to the fiscal cliff. number one, we're going to see an agreement in the next 48 hours in which case middle-class taxes will not go up. if that doesn't happen, then democrats in the senate will put a bill on the floor of the senate, and republicans will have to decide if they're going to block it, which will mean that middle-class taxes do go up. i don't think they would want to do that mitticalpolitically, bu may end up doing it. if republicans do decide to block it and middle-class families' taxes do go up january 1st, we'll come back with a new congress january 4th. the first bill that will be introduced on the floor will be to cut taxes on middle-class families. i don't think the average person is going to say, gosh, you know, that's a really partisan agenda on the part of either the president or democrats in congress. i think people will say, that makes sense because that's what the economy needs right now. so one a or another, we'll get through this. do i wish that things were more orderly in washington and rational and people listen to the best arguments and compromised a
the fiscal cliff. they can see how damaging it is politically. they also are looking forward to the next fight about the debt ceiling, which is going to be even more damaging. so they always say it's the other guy who wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i don't hear people going out and saying i think it's a good idea that everyone pays more taxes or there are these deep spending cuts. they're all pretending like they know everyone else's strategy. it's about coming to a yes as opposed to agreeing to a no. that's where they don't want to take the heat. >> richard wolf, always good to see you, my friend. thanks. >> thanks, chris. >> the real victims of the fight will not necessarily be republicans or democrats, of course. it's going to be the american people. we talked to bernie sanders about those 2.1 million people on unemployment. we'll look at what going over the fiscal cliff will actually mean to you. our special coverage continues in just a moment. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart c
-- are we going over the fiscal cliff? >> well, i think we're going to find out in the next 48 hours what congress decides to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. because it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended and they're all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight, december 31st, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they're less likely to hire and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is starting to pick up and we're seeing signs of recovery in housing and employment numbers improving. so what congress needs to do first and foremost, is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major topic of discussion throughout the campa
-called fiscal cliff. i'm craig melvin and you are watching msnbc, with all the focus on the fiscal cliff, will there be action on gun control. meanwhile, we are going to talk to an attorney general that wants to arm teachers to protect students. and the race to fill john kerry's senate seat. first, fiscal cliff talks. countdown clock tot screen. the senate is shouldering most of the weight of that deadline. senate leaders working behind closed doors to come up with a cliff compromise, something that the house and the president has failed to do so is far. the president has tasked senator majority leader harry reed. >> i have asked senator reed to do it, put a by on the floor to make sure that taxes on middle class families do not go up. and unemployment insurance is still available for two million people and lays the groundwork for economic growth and deficit reduction. >> everything that has been happening in the last several hours has been happening behind the scenes. we have correspondents tracking everything for you. we have luke, luke, i will start with you this hour. the senate offi
as we're headed in to this fiscal cliff. >> you can probably ask people this next thing off the street, to give examples of the dysfunction of this congress because so many of these have been high profile. >> well, sure. there's so many different things of the debate, the standoff and both sides took some hits for. the super-committee failure setting this in motion the first place. the near shutdown of the government in 2011 and the defeat of the disabilities treaty that was because of republicans not liking the united nations, anything with u.n. on it. that went down even with bob dole on the floor, you know, at the senate, coming back, hoping republicans help pass it and would not. >> last thing and quickly, do you have some arguing that, you know what? it's okay passing fewer bills. some argue smaller government and government not intruding in the lives of americans as much. >> no question about it. we have heard it of republicans and conservatives saying the government doesn't need to be doing more but less because it's doing too much, spending too much so the less it does, the bet
. whether those lines are used repeatedly over the next few days to reach a fiscal cliff deal is anybody's guess. joining me now for our daily fix, nbc's kelly o'donnell is live on capitol hill. kelly, i want to start with you. senator scott brown just tweeted out to all his followers that he was getting on a plane heading to washington. the president has apparently sent over a new deal to the senate. what can you tell us about this new fiscal cliff deal that president obama has sent over to senator leaders? >> well, the power of social media to get the word out. gop sources say in the conversation with the president, he indicated that he does have a bill he would like to bring forward to the hill today. they have not seen that. it would be a package to deal with averting the fiscal cliff. we can infer from that with what the president said before he went to the family vacation in hawaii that he wanted something that would be scaled down, not a massive grand bargain that would protect the current tax rate for people who earned less than $250,000 a year or perhaps a different figure if th
:00 p.m. eastern for the very latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations and possibly votes. up next, "meet the press," david gregory's exclusive interview with president obama. we'll keep you updated throughout the hour on any elements when it comes to the deal-making on capitol hill. ve a cold, announcer ] alka-selr plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh what a relief it is! ♪ [ male announcer ] to learn more about the cold truth and save $1 visit alka-seltzer on facebook.
any special election for the house. >> they want that vote on the fiscal cliff. still the employee of the month and thank you so much. next, breaking with boehner. a month ago, oklahoma congressman tom cole endorsed compromising and going-over the fiscal cliff. what's he saying now? the minority report, we will get the view from the other side of the aisle with john yarmouth. a look ahead at the president's schedule. you are watching t"the daily rundown" on msnbc. i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through. that's 1% back on... [ toy robot sounds ] 2% on pumpkin pie. and apple. 3% back on 4 trips to the airport. it's as easy as... -[ man ] 1... -[ woman ] 2... [ woman ] 3. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the flu.fer from with aches, fever and chills- the f
in this is the first battle. they want to win the war. they don't want to get totally bruced in this fiscal cliff situation. they're willing to buckle a little bit on rates right now but ultimately when they talk about the debt ceiling, they think they can some other things they can attack 37. >> sam, is the obama white house this good? is this divide and conquer? >> well, first of all, no, they're not that good. and, you know, it's ironic because had boehner taken that last offer that obama gave him, one that would have changed the benefit structure for social security, it would have ended up fracturing the democratic base in some respects. a lot of progressives were upset the white house was even going there. they thought he didn't need to make that concession. a lot of this is the house republicans' own fault they're in in corner. they could have taken a deal, could have take an deal in the summer of 2011 which would have been more favorable to them. they didn't do either. >> if obama is coming out and from what we're hearing he's not making a real offer. he's coming out with $250,000 staying
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republicans are looking past the fiscal cliff entirely and getting ready for the next fight. senator bob corker spoke moments ago on capitol hill. >> we immediate to do something in the 4 1/2 to $5 trillion range. so we can begin this year with this and in the rear view mirror and our economy really has the opportunity to take off. i think it is apparent that on these -- december 29 without anything that's bold in place, that's probably not going to happen. so, unfortunately, for america, the next line in the sand will be the debt ceiling. secretary geithner sent up a letter. it is probably around mid march action has to be taken. >> we are going to keep an eye on that. he will keep talking. we will bring you the highlights. first, though, this is going to be pretty hot. we have singer/songwriter, a man you are going to want to hear from whose biography could serve as a life lesson in and of itself. john forte joins us next on "now." >>> john forte grew up in brooklyn and made it to exeter academy on a violin scholarship and was a bram any nominated producer. he got a dream assignment fo
in the next five hours, america will be going over the fiscal cliff. we do know that after intense negotiations between senate minority leaders, let me show you the highlights. $600 billion in revenue will be raised over the next decade through a series of raises on taxes for the wealthiest americans. and those rates would also carry over for couples making under 450,000. any income above those two numbers would be taxed at 39.6 pnt. the top tax rate under president clinton. and capital gains taxes above those amounts would be increased to 20%, that is up from 15%. this tax deal would also create a perm naanent fix for the alternative minimum tax and extend unemployment insurance for 2 million americans. the president made it clear what his top priority is in any deal. >> preventing that tax hike has been my top priority. because the last thing folks like the folks up here on the stage can afford right now is to pay an extra $2,000 in taxes next year. middle class families can't afford it. businesses can't afford it. our economy can't afford it. >> just an hour later, senate minori
tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less happy note, there are economists who are saying this whole fight over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his new offer with offers down at the white house. we saw the stock market sell off rather dramatically just in those couple of minutes as that news was coming out. i got to say that over the past 24 hours or so the stock market has been relatively calm sort of expecting a deal, expecting that lawmakers wi
can't hide from the impending cliff of doom. despite what steve might tell you watching fiscal cliff nonsense in washington can make you feel powerless. our next guest is here with the tips on how to make -- take some of you power back. joining us is rick newman, chief business correspondent for "u.s. news & world report" and author of "rebounders." so tell us, what can the average person do to sort of thwart against the realities of the fiscal cliff? >> my first tip is just relax. it's not going to be armageddon right off the bat. i mean, it is worth pointing out we hear the humongous figures like $500 billion in tax increases and stuff like that. most of those will not affect people until it's time to fill out the tax returns and won't happen until 2014. say the tax rates go up, the government is not going to automatically withhold more money from the paycheck and the tax rates can be in effect for most of the year. we hope they're not but congress could rescind them toward the end of the year and one thing to affect you is the payroll tax cut, two percentage points and spoebed to
are responding. some spending less this holiday season as the fiscal cliff nears, others buying guns as that debate intensifies. fresh off the demand for armed guards in every school, wayne lapierre remained defiant in his one and only interview with david gregory. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, call me crazy. >> reporter: the nra leader wanted to discuss munitions. >> i don't believe that will make a difference. >> reporter: throughout the country some americans are responding, some buying weapons. >> i'm here to take advantage of an opportunity to do something about that before it happens. >> reporter: others protesting at gun shops. >> it's just not right. it's just insanity. insanity. >> reporter: on capitol hill lawmakers address how to address this issue as they face another problem, another stalemate in fiscal cliff negotiations. >> our republican colleagues by refusing to go along with revenues are risking the fiscal cliff. >> i think we're going to fall out of the fiscal tree. >> reporter: confidence at a
advantage to waiting to go off the fiscal cliff and coming back in january. the house speaker john boehner may have more flexibility as we're just saying. so that's one plus and democrats also will have a strengthened position in the congress come january. >> if republicans wait until the start of the new congress they can say, you know what? we voted to lower taxes. >> exactly. >> they just went up. >> i want to end with you here because we spend a lot of time talking about the fiscal cliff and the fact of the matter is the sequestration is fazed in. >> right. >> when you start talking about some of these taxes, whether it's the ending of unemployment insurance -- >> yeah. >> whether it's the payroll tax holiday going away, you start talking about an immediate impact for millions of families in this country. >> part of david's spoipoint is there's two to three-month wriggle room and shifting resources to unemployment insurance to keeping marginal tax rates unchanged, you know, for the next few months. at some point, look, they won't be able to do that. i would say it's unlikely wow won't
look at next week and the fiscal cliff presumably happening, going over it, john boehner is supposed to be re-elected speaker on next thursday. >> on the 3rd, yeah. >> is that going to change everything and he's going to say, to hell with this right-wing tail wagging my dog, i don't need you guys anymore? >> no, because the house isn't the only theater of this. there's the senate, of course. we talked briefly about this earlier, but mitch mcconnell has a senate election in 2014. and if there's been one thing that's been noted over the past year, it's these crazy senate challengers have the chance of knocking off a person in the primary. and i'm assuming that mitch mcconnell knows that. >> this is great. this is great. we love this. tension at the convention of both ends of pennsylvania avenue, the white house, congress. this is terrific stuff. kurt, stay with us, okay? can you. we're begging you, begging you. >> you're adding gravitas to this. >>> we'll also bring in nbc news political director, chuck todd, also nbc white house correspo corresponde correspondent. >>> first, dylan dre
for your time. >> thanks, chris. >>> president obama will be making a statement on the fiscal cliff moments from now at 1:30 eastern time. stay with us for live coverage of that. next, an update on secretary of state hillary clinton's health scare. >>> minutes from now medicine prez obama will make a statement about the state of the fiscal cliff negotiations. stay with us for live coverage of it. >>> meantime, secretary of state hillary clinton is under observation at new york -- at a new york city hospital today. her spokesman says she was admitted sunday for a blood clot stemming from the concussion she sustained during a recent bout with the stomach flu. nbc's chief science and health correspondent bob bazell is at new york presbyterian hospital where secretary clinton is being treated. bob, i know this is a story we're all keeping a very close eye on. what's the latest? we know she has a blood clot that came from -- they say from the concussion. we know it's being treated with anti-coagulant drugs. a lot of doctors are puzzled by that series of events because most blood clots that come
's resolution? will a last-minute fiscal cliff deal get done? and if it does what will it look like. >>> we have a deal. we may still get hit with an automatic tax hike. how much will that cost you? in time for the new year, a new snowstorm headed to the northeast. we'll let you know how bad this will get. and the yore in review, up with of the most unique and appalling takes on the year in review. good morning to you all. welcome to weekends with alex witt. no alex today. taking a much deserved weekend off. i'm t.j. holmes, good to be with you. new this morning, president obama outlining his course of action if we all go off the cliff. >> if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up-or-down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job and lays the ground work for more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> the president is optimistic that a deal can be reached midnight on new year's eve. listen to senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> we had a good me
about in the fiscal cliff, and the debt e creeling that tim geithner said that we would have to raise any day now, and is this the next couple of months in terms of the debate? does the white house have a strategy of dealing with both in the next phase? >> well, they are quite clear that there's probably just too much at this point to put that in this initial package and specifically the debt ceiling, and saying there is no way to address that right now. they know that is the next big hurdle they are going to have to face once they deal with the immediate issue of the tax hikes and spending cuts, so i believe that you are absolutely right. in terms of the strategy f they have one, they have not revealed the details about that quite yet. president obama today, and what i thought was interesting is using the power of the bully pulpit to put pressure on congress to get this basic deal done that he is calling for, and richard, one of the things that he said at the end of the remarks is that essentially this is not how the american people do business and just to remind you that ordinary fo
the rest of us. he also referenced the impending fiscal cliff, which threatens to derail the economy if a compromise isn't be reached by next week on those big, unanswered issues. with both sides locked in a standoff, house republicans are calling on senate democrats to act first. democrats aren't budging much on their demands. they want to extend tax cuts on incomes below $250,000, prolong unemployment benefits and delay those sweeping spending cuts. while many republicans oppose new taxes for anyone, senator kay bailey hutchison says she's looking for compromise, alluding to house speaker john boehner's plan "b" that was met with stiff opposition from his own party. >> i think $250,000 is too low a threshold. a lot of working people who are couples would exceed that, and i don't think we need that kind of shock to the system. however, i've talked to some of my democratic colleagues, and they are saying maybe in the $400,000 or $500,000 category we could set a benchmark. i do think it is essential that we start talking about what amount can be passed on a bipartisan basis, because y
for politics. less than three days until the so-called fiscal cliff and congress still trying to hammer out a deal. they've had 515 days to work this out. still, though, capitol hill leaders are at an impasse and starting next week, you and i could see our paychecks cut as payroll taxes go up and that could be just the beginning. the clock at the bottom right of your screen there might as well have a blaringa, large on it because come midnight monday if lawmakers have not found the fiscal cliff solution you're going to hear a whole heck of a lot of noise. let's get straight to washington. nbc's kristen welker at the white house and luke russert is tracking developments at capitol hill and nbc news senior political editor mark murray is here to break it down for us from the washington bureau. we will start with kristen. last we heard, kristen welker, the president came out to report that he is modestly optimistic. has the rhetoric changed at all today? >> reporter: it has changed a little bit. the president is still modestly optimistic, but i just spoke with a democratic source who tells me
, everybody. the next hour, a last-ditch effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president has called all four congressional leaders to the white house no a high stakes meeting. is there really any hope? i'll speak with congressman sanderson. and then should teachers be armed in the classroom? it's a big debate. whop wants at least one teacher armed at every school in his state. >>> then remembers stormin' norman, the history general who died yesterday. we'll have barry mccaffery reflecting on one of the most celebrated battlefield generals of our time. tends to stay in mo. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narcotic. you and your doctor should balance the benefit
. >>> finally, what's a woman in a bikini have to do with the fiscal cliff? ask "the new york post." there she is on today's front page leaping off an actual cliff. "off the fiscal cliff, this fall is really going to hurt." that's what they said. >>> up next, it used to be a favorite republican pastime, going after hillary clinton. it hasn't happened for a while, of course, but what if she does run for president? how could they resist doing it again? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. she knows you like no one else. and you wouldn't have it any other way. but your erectile dysfunction - you know, that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain
. "off the fiscal cliff, this fall is really going to hurt." that's what they said. >>> up next, it used to be a favorite republican pastime, going after hillary clinton. it hasn't happened for a while, of course, but what if she does run for president? how could they resist doing it again? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. check out my new treadmill app. pretty sweet, huh? cute. but don't you have any apps on your phone that can make your life easier? who do you think i am, quicken loans? at quicken loans, we'll provide you with myql mobile. this amazingly useful app allows you to take pictures of your mortgage documents using an iphone or android smart phone... so you can easily send them to us. one more way quicken loans is engineered to amaze. ooh, la-la! >>> i'm craig melvin. we have some breaking news at this hour. nbc news laz learned president obama will host a meeting tomorrow afternoon with congressional leadership from both sides of the aisle. house this really a concussion -- >> you mean john bolton. >> i feel if she ends up testifying next month maybe that'
in a bikini have to do with the fiscal cliff? ask "the new york post." there she is on today's front page leaping off an actual cliff. off the fiscal cliff, this fall is really going to hurt. that's what they said. >>> up next, it used to be a favorite republican pastime, going after hillary clinton. it hasn't happened for a while, of course, but what if she does run for president? how could they resist doing it again? you're watching haum, the place for politics. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your lega
bared that out. the election bared that out and passing the fiscal cliff and looks like we will have kind of another temporary crisis in the next month or three months, they again have to fight the stereotypes and label that is built up. >> one of those jumped out at me. maybe run it by you. for the democrats, the argument of don't offend gun owners and manners, you don't want to offend anybody needlessly, a voter or group. i get that. you point to the example of the 2000 election and say al gore lost maybe the presidency because of maybe gun ownership and so much the map changed that the votes to win a national election, to win statewide election for democrats now -- gore lost kentucky, missouri, wf w6, his ohm state of tennessee and where the gun issue's hurt him. those are republican states. democrats have taken a decade off on gun control and haven't made any headway with gun owners and still voting as reliably republican now than maybe more so. isn't the lesson it's okay to be easy on gun control? >> i don't think so. people that voting for president obama because of the auto ba
over the fiscal cliff. we are going either all the way over or going partly over, but we are definitely, definitely going over. that whole fiscal cliff thing, where congress and the white house can't reach a deal on taxes and spending before the end of the year and they maybe get us into a recession, it's definitely happening. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families, for our businesses, and for our entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> allow me a quick update here. that press conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until
months. the reason donors are concerned that a fiscal cliff deal could limit the tax deduction on charitable giving in the future. >> good day to you. is that the reason? i think people are worried they won't know what the deduction listen next we're, so front-loading the deduction this year. hopefully it's my wish they don't reduce it at all. >> let's look at some of the numbers. each year 300 billion is given to charity and claim about 50 billion a year in tax deductions. so when you look at some of the numbers, a person making about $too,000, they can deduct 35%. if that were to go down to 28%, how much do you think that would impact giving? >> you know, the estimate is anywhere between 1 and 30 billi billion, depending on how the deduction goes, and even if it's eliminated. it's hard to predict. one of the important things is this deduction han in place since 1917, and no one has ever touched it before. so we have no data on what's going to happen, but i think the americans, three quarters of the americans are concerned it will reduce the money to charity. >>> you know, if
're keeping our eye on the senate back in session with the fiscal cliff talks now down to the wire. the big question is even if the senate reaches a deal as they continue the debate will republicans pass anything with tax hikes in the house? up next republican congressman tom cole. and baby makes three. kim kardashian and kanye west's big baby announcement. also, sydney, australia celebrating the new year just three hours ago with fireworks over the famous opera house. in new york city, an already crowded times square. people waking up there. our big question what is your new year's resolution for 2013? tweet me at richard lui. we'll share some of your comments later. >>> a live look at the markets which appear to be taking going over the fiscal cliff in stride. many people say it is built into the market. many investors are still confident leaders will strike some sort of deal as talks go down to the wire and even if they don't they are counting on senate majority leader harry reid to present a backup proposal to limit some of the damage. we're watching live pictures on the right-hand side
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weekend. good luck in washington now. >>> next hour we'll hear from more lawmakers about the fiscal cliff. we'll have senator bernie sanders from vermont he'll be here as well as representative karen bass of california. in our 1:00 eastern hour right here on msnbc. >>> we need to turn now to weather. a winter storm another one dropping snow in the northeast. take a look now. you know a lot of people -- just a few days away. we've got a little snow coming down here now actually. that's the spot a lot of people are going to gather. right outside the studios here, rockefeller plaza. but the new year's countdown they expect some million people to be out there when the ball drops. but when that ball drops, how bad is it going to be out there? are they going to be getting snowed on? dylan dryer, would you recommend going out there on new year's receive in. >> of course. it's new year's eve in new york city. but the snow will be gone by then. it is a snowstorm nonetheless and the roads and anyone traveling in the northeast will run into some issues. we've already seen some reports of pretty bad
is back with us. what are the stories? some work might start on the fiscal cliff? one can only hope the president comes back. we are assuming the house and the senate will be milling about. you will know this better than i. then the other story we might be talking about is whoever governor neal abercrombie of hawaii might select to fill the senate seat to be selected by daniel inouye. >> there is a rush ta to that so the senator can participate in the fiscal cliff votes. that could be an important vote. >> it will definitely be an important vote. the reason i brought it up is twitter being what it is, representative-elect told them, just got elected, 32-year-old combat veteran what has not taken her seat yet got an endorsement from cal penn to be the person selected to take senator inouye's seat. >> she can be an answer to a trivia question. who is a representative-elect and never served a day in office and became senator. that's incredible. some day. jonathan, thank you so much. we appreciate that. that does it for this edition of andr"andrea mitchell reports." my colleague has a l
. we'll see what they have in terms of a fiscal cliff. we have much more as we track this countdown. congressman steny hoyer, tom cole, steve israel all next. first a look at some people behind the scenes at msnbc. i hope you all have a very happy new year. >> happy holidays from "the daily rundown!" >> happy holidays. >> and have a very happy new year. >> happy holidays. >> happy holidays. >> happy new year from "andrea mitchell reports." >> merry christmas. >> merry christmas from "the cycle!" >> happy holidays from the "alex witt" team. >> happy holidays from "up with chris hayes." >> happy holidays! >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> happy holidays from msnbc. >> happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> happy holidays from the p.a.s. >> from all of us at msnbc, merry christmas and happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays, everybody. >> hello, team. what a wonderful 2012. i'm looking forward to a fantastic 2013. happy new year. >>> happy new year. the question today. are you ready to go cliff diving? breaking news to
the can down the road. now, is there a value to kicking the can down the road in avoiding the fiscal cliff? yes. but if they go over the cliff and then fix it in the next week with another stopgap, is there any real harm? who knows. if that make it is easier for republicans to vote for it, is it a disaster? probably not. but understand we had seven weeks in which we could have a done a big deal which would have gotten the debt under control, would have caused the economy to -- it would have been a catalyst to have this economy take off, and we blew it. we blew it. >> you know, governor dean, to that point here we are essentially looking over the abyss of the fiscal cliff, and i know you have said in the past let's just go over the cliff and start from scratch. do you still think that's the way to go? >> i do. actually, i hope they never come to a deal because this is the best deficit reduction package the democrats are ever going to get. but let's look at what really is going to happen here. i would be more surprised if they came to a deal in the next five days than i was by the roberts vo
. >> reporter: veronica, good morning. as that gun debate heats up, we are also approaching the fiscal cliff. we're talking about uncertainty now on two issues close to american's hearts and across the country people are responding. some spending less this holiday this season as the fiscal cliff nears and others buying guns as that intensifies. fresh off a demand for armed guards in school, nra's wayne lapierre remained defiant in his one and only interview with david gregory. >> if it's crazy for calling for armed police in our schools to protect our children, call me crazy. >> reporter: the nra's leader dismissed calls for weapons bans. >> reporter: americans are responding, some buying weapons. >> i'm here to take advantage of an opportunity to do something about that before it happens. >> reporter: others protesting at gun shops. >> it's just not right. it's just insanity. insanity. >> reporter: back on capitol hill lawmakers address how to address this prickly issue, another stalemate and fiscal cliff negotiation. >> our republican colleagues by refusing to go along with revenues are riskin
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